shower options


Torina

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n terms of keeping the water contained within a curtain. We're thinking of setting the solar shower bag on the pop up bed and putting the output hose over a shower curtain which hangs down into a basin on the floor. Has anyone tried this indoors?

Will love to hear what everyone else out there is doing (other than hotels and laudromat showers).

Thanks,
Torina
 

Capt. Mike

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There had been a post in Archives but I think they're down for the count. John has had a lot of trouble keeping the old server running. I have the archives in a gazillion little files and will transfer them in as I get the time, but this is fine. We'll get a new thread going on the subject.

I'll see if I can remember what I've read and what I know from my own experience.

I've not been impressed with the solar showers. Bulky, difficult to handle (water does weight about 7½ lb. per gallon), and takes too long to warm up. People usually want our showers shortly after set-up in the evening or in the morning after no sun for 10 hours or so.

We use the old-fashioned sink bath. Heat the big pot of hot water and you'd be surprised how well you can do with a washcloth. Good for about a week, except . . .! The hair! The solar type showers can still be used for that. Many is the time we've taken the hot sink bath, then stepped out for a cold hair wash. The new cold water camper shampoos work fine. I suppose you could even pour some heated water into one of them.

A problem in any Westy is storage room. Any shower or privacy shelter takes gobs. I've seen little back-packer showers that look ideal for the hair-washing. Sort of a squeeze bag with spray nozzle.

I have a small tent, about the size of a shower stall. Looks like a little canvas outhouse. And works well for that, but requires 4 6' poles, guy lines & stakes. Then one takes their shower standing in the usual grassless campsite or having to walk across verious obstacles to get too it. Then you've got a soggy tent to pack away. The original was the cheap blue plastic. We redid it in the lightest rip-stop but it's still too big. A 3' bag of poles and another of the fabric.

By the way, on a cold morning, you fire up the LP heater (see posts under Aux. Heat) and the water. By the time the water is hot and you have to get out from under the blankets, the cabin is toasty.

Our usual plan is to sink bath a week, then stop at a campground with showers or motel. By then it's time for laundry anyway.
 
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dajabr

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I have been researching the possibility of adding a sink sprayer type attachment to the back of my westy, like the Eurovans have. It would run from the same tank, maybe the same 12v pump, and a person could have a shower under the rear hatch. Maybe add a curtain all around (if you're not in the middle of no where) and a heating element. We did dishes and showers with this jobbie in my buddy's 94 westy, and I'm just looking at the Bentley to see where to run the hose and power, then where/if to throw in a heater...
 

JT

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I always thought that one of these changing tents http://www.anywidget.com/diveinn/diveinn.html
would make a great portable bathroom. You can stand up in them and they fold up into a flat disc for storage. Since they are designed for changing out of wet wetsuits after diving there are mesh drains in the corners. They go up very quickly and after some practice fold up pretty fast too. The shower in the campshower is just a garden sprayer, I have one to rinse off the sand when I go diving, they're very handy.
 

Capt. Mike

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Transferred from old Archives.

I've been looking for a while now at the solar showers. I found a real dandy - made by Stearns. It has got a canvas exterior, and a small pump to pressurize the bag. The best on the market. I think it was about $40. But quality makes this one worth every$$$$.

www.campshower.com has the best shower system there is

Another good trick to do rather than a solar shower is to use No Rinse Shampoo and Body Wash. The brand is called NoRinse, (go figure,) and can be found through Campmor and some local retailers. Average price is about $3.99 for a bottle. And if you can't find it locally, Campmor is on the web.

You can order a good one (3 liters - 3/4 Gallon) from Mountain Equipment Co-op for CN$11. Exterior is black so water quickly warms. It's a single shower. Web site: www.mec.ca
 
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85Westy

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Regarding the caming shower... If you go to www.vanagon.com, and read some of the dispatches from the South American trip, one of the travellers (Larry) built a warm water shower on the underside of his rear hatch and used (I think) the rear heater as the heat source. He has a link that you can go to for the details.
 

bridgerdog

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a friend of mine told me they installed a pvc pipe on the front bumper, ran a copper pipe out both ends , wrapped it around the exhaust pipes for heating and as they drove the water heated by circulating through the piping and they had a separate hose for actual showering.

I am not sure exactly how it was set up but it did sound like it was possible.
quick shower though.
 

Ben Beutler

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Well let me tell you what I did with my 83 westi. I used to use one of the black solar showers untill my wife was driving and didnt see a stop sign and when I yelled stop she slamed on the brakes sending the shower out of the luggage rack right into the middle of the intersection. I do have to admit it was kinda funny. Anyway I spliced a hose right under where my resevore for the sink is stored and intstalled a ball joint valve. The valve is so that i can devert the water to the back of the bus. I installed a kitchen sink sprayer in the rear of the cabinet in the back. I used a plactic peice that recesses into the cabinet. The same type of plastic they use to put in sheetrock where your washer and dryer hook ups go in your home. I just spliced the wiring off the same switch that I use for my sink.
It works out really well all I have to do is flip the ball valve and walk to the back grab the nozzle pull it out and flip the switch and I have a shower. It works good during summer evenings because the summer heat warms the water nicely.
I also purchased a plastic shower stall that I hang off the back of the rear hatch. It works great.
Ben
 

pernicev

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I have tried being a little creative in bringing a "hot" shower into my Westy, but with little success. However, paging through a Cabela's fishing catalogue, I see they offer a Hot Travel Shower for around $110. The best part is that it runs off of propane, has it's own pump, and it's own battery supply. It's manufactured by "Zodi Outback Gear", not a bad price considering the other commercially available options. Here is the Cabela's link: www.cabelas.com
 
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rlytwyniuk

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One idea we used on the boat was a 3 gallon garden sprayer with a kitchen sink sprayer attached. Heat about 1 gallon of water on the stove and then fill the rest with cold. Pump it up and wash. of course you still have the problem with outdoor privacy and cold.

Good luck
 

definca

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Torina, You seemed to be asking how to do an inside shower. I too have thought about this because there are times when you may not be in a place you can just pop the rear hatch open and draw a curtain and do it in the parking lot. If you could pop the top and do it in the middle of the van you could almost shower in a walmart parking lot. ;) I think the stall would have to be custom made because it needs to be just the right size to fit. Inflatable with a floor and drain tube. I recommend looking into high tech fabrics like rubberized canvas and a "heat-sealing" tool that would allow you to make air matress inflateable chambers for the frame. I like the idea. I have thought of putting a small stainless tank just above the transmission and running copper line inside with a heater valve for control off where the old rear heater was plumbed. I have heard the engine will heat 5-10 gals of water in no time this way. Dave
 
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blemings

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just found a coleman gadget that acts as your shower plumbing ... also found a plastic shower stall ... both from a camping store ... total cost about $100 cda and now have a complete shower unit that filds up into a small backpack
 

tonyvw

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I have always heated water then put it in a MSR Dromedory bag (www.mountainsafetyresearch.com) then hung it below the back door in the open position (it acts as a roof). as far as a shower stall I rigg up a tarp hanging ontop of the door draping over the sides, and bam instant shower. its easier with a buddy. And you can enjoy music from inside the bus. Please try to follow LNT and be atleast 200 feet from any water source. Enjoy the shower!! Ive lived & traveled out of my 74 westy for some summers.
 

tonyvw

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I know if you go to www.nrsweb.com you can use the "rafters shower. there are lots of options. Once Ive used a 5 gallon "compound bucket", an inline pump, bought at any plumbing supply store, and created abracket with a metal hanger, I also used flexible hose. the whole cost was about $25
fill bucket up with water. put one end of the hose in the water, lay the inline pump on the ground ( so your foot works it) and hang the other end somewhere with twine or a metal hanger. I have also used this with the shower curtain One post up.
 

blemings

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more info onthe shower as requested ... I got the shower stall from a Camping Store out of edmonton ab ... so it should be easily found ... is a plastic dark for privacy and is about 6 feet tall and hangs from whatever .. plan on hookong something up to the roof ... has a clip door that opens and you walk into ...uses air chambers at the top and bottom to give it its shape ... as for the shower unit it is a Coleman device so should be readily available where coleman products are sold or at least should be able to order ... basically a battery (D cell) operated pump that takes water from a jug on the ground and pumps it to the top of the shower and has a regular shower fixture on the end ... as mentioned the whole kit cost less than $100 cda
 

TE.HORNTOAD

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Inregards to a westy insde privicy hot shower. Here is my solution in my 79 westy. I used two stndard shower curians and sewed them togather got a holla hupe and shower curtians hooks. got a plastic 24" hotwater heater drain pan at home depo and put a bar sink drain in it. cut a hole in the floor in front of the sink cabinet and installed a floor drain and hooked it to the sink vent drain uderthe westy with pvc.got a swimming pool collapsable drain hose and attached it to the vent drain and run it on the ground away from the camper. I put a hook in the pop up and hung the hulla hoop with the shower curtains on it. I contact glued velcr on the round plastic WH drain pan inside rim ad sewed velcro on the bottom of the showercurtain and fastened it to the drain pan. The shower curtain has a step through and Iran a shower head with a hose to the sink faset and clamped it on so when I turn on the electric faset the water goes up the shower head ad above the showe curtain and sprays down and drais through the floor pan through sik vent below the floor and through the pool drain hose on the ground or camp sight hookup. For the heater I used a old aluminm pot led and a coilof copper tubine around and around the pot led iside and ran one end of the tubing to the filler for the water tank ad the other end fastes to the faset with a clear plastic tube and clamp. I put the pot lid with the copper tubing over the back burner of the sink stove. Turn the sink pump on and the water fron the faset runs through the copper tube and gets heated by the propane burner and back to the westy water tank until the wate temp is what ever ou like. Then you remove the pot lid heater after the water in the tank is warm and coect the shower head hose to the sink foset get in the shower reach out and turn on the sik pump and have your hot shower and the water goes throught the flor pan. Turn everything off unhook the shower curtain fold it into the floor pan and store the whold thing in the sik cabinet spare tire cabinet. The spare tire is on the front of the bus. Wold thinf about $35 . Works for me. fellow westy nut.

Ray McFall
 

Bajatacoma

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Coleman makes a battery powered shower (it uses 4 D size batteries) that works pretty well. You can drop the intake into a bucket or screw it onto a Coleman 5gal water container. They also make a shower curtain assembly that has an inflatable top to keep it open but still allow it to collapse for storage.

[Moderator Note: Bajatacoma included the direct link to a Walmart page, but it was so long it was messing up some diplay page formats and had to be removed. You can get more info via Walmart's site or direct from Coleman.]
 
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Capt. Mike

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I'd caution anyone thinking of using Ray's suggesting of heating the water in the Westy tank that the plastic tank was never designed for hot water and though a temperature warm enough to avoid 'instant shock' might not do physical damage, the expansion and contraction it brings could cause leaks and might not be the greatest thing for the pump. Warm water can accelerate corrosion, algae or bacterial growth and one wouldn't dare get it hot enough for sanitizing.
 

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