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judlandis

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Original paint color helps the value of the vehicle, too.

Speaking of unpopular colors, I'm getting a '68 Squareback in lovely Savanna Beige. I need another old VW like I need a hole in my head (wallet), but I'm helpless when the opportunity presents itself.

I thought I should see a shrink, but then I figured that fiddling with these old things is what's keeping me OUT of the nuthouse. Focuses the mind nicely; keeps me out of trouble.
 

Capt. Mike

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That chocolate brown of the early '80s was, when clean & polished, actually a very pretty color invoking 'natural' or 'earthy' auro appropriate to a Westy.

Mike R. & judlandis have very valid points. An '80 Westy is fast approaching official antique status (25 years). As such, in the future, its potential resale and value may lie in that market, where the 'wrong' color is considered as if no paint at all. Antique car standards are factory original to that model year and incur massive deduction in value if not.

The AACA does allow you to change colors as long as the chosen color was original to that model and that year. You could not, for instance put a '90 metalic burgandy on an '80. Another example is you cannot upgrade a standard veriosn with a color available on a deluxe edition, but not a standard. From an antique point of view, the interiors must also match the color -- i.e. if you change to a color that had a different color interior standard, you'd have to change the interior also. These considerations may not matter to you as a driver, but can cost thousands in an eventual resale.

Repainting a non-original color does require basically a complete strip and gut to get both inside and out. I've seen a lot that were changed outside but not in and everyone of them looked crappy. If you're gung-ho on changing color, consider staying with the basic chocolate brown and using a lighter beige as the upper color of a two-tone scheme. That way, you only have to paint the upper door-jams and will avoid most of the interior stripping to get the rest. But Mike's right on future chips -- you should refinish and reprime to get the best adhesion.
 

Stevekdx

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Hello from a newbie (85 Westy)

Many thanks for this site and to the folks who maintain it. It has been invaluable in helping me repair (and understand) my quirky vehicle.

This may be a stupid question, but is there somewhere on this site that I can get a list of other users? The "Roll Call" button doesn't work.

I paid $50 for a stupid campsite in Destin, Fl Friday night. I really just needed somewhere to park for the night. Don't Westy owners sometimes let others share their driveways?

Thanks,
Steve
 

Capt. Mike

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When the software was updates some time ago, we lost Roll Call, Tips and several other features of the home page menu. We've put most of them into the message boards, but the "Park in driveway" is no only available by looking at a member's profile. If you click on a member's name in red, it will bring up a drop-down menu with the top item, 'View members public profile.' Here they may exhibet whether they will allow another Westy owenr 'overnight' privs.

The unwieldy part of that is you can't search by location. You have to get your cue from seeing where a member lists as being from in the bottom line of his post window -- where yours says Mobile AL. For instance your own profile has left blank the area about whether you would allow another Westy member to o'nite in your drive.
 

Stevekdx

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Thanx.

Fixed my profile. Any Westy passing through Mobile Alabama is welcome to use my driveway! Complete with bathroom access.

For years, we pulled a popup camper and stayed almost exclusively in state parks. Since it was such an ordeal to setup/takedown, we almost never spent the night on the road. I would either drive forever to get where we were going, or we would get a motel room.

The Westy we have now, though has opened up more possibilities - since it only takes a few seconds to set up, we can take off after work, drive a few hours, and make our destination the next morning. Twice I've pulled into "Campgrounds" where I've paid exhorbitant fees to park my little Westy amidst monster motor homes.

Maybe we can get the roll call working again one day - I'm not a computer person, but I'll certainly make a donation (going to do that anyway). I'm not sure I really would stay in someone's driveway, but I would email someone in the area that I'm passing through and ask recommendations, etc.

Steve
 

Capt. Mike

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Chat Room is a misnomer; there is very little live chat. Consider it a fridge for 'post-it' notes. See the Guidelines about tech and other posts -- the chat room is limited to non-technical items temporary in nature. There are even a couple forms for non-tech topics more permanent in nature.
 

Capt. Mike

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I hope all of you will reserve a few moments of silence today to honor those lost in 9-11 and support our troops, wherever they might be.
 

Capt. Mike

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Temp. topic transferred from a permanent forum.

Stolen Westy

oldmcdfarm Junior Member posted September 22, 2004 01:49 AM

Hi, On Sep 20th, my 1991 Westy was stolen from the parking lot at Atlantis Casino Reno Nevada We had taken in part of the air show/races and were splurging on a night at the Atlantis only to wake and find our faithful friend/love transport(Named Herman) of over 130k miles had been taken. It is a 1991 Westy, black bra, Oregon License SRT 897, small letters on back of poptop "HASTE MAKES WASTE". Atlantis security was of no help, Reno PD offer little hope. If anyone sees it around, let me know.
We are devastated. This is our 3rd Westy (A 1971 with 150k miles, a 1987 with 50k.) We've traveled since 1979 thru 49 states, most provinces of Canada (Inuvik); Key West, Kings Canyon, Yosemite, Maine & Acadia NP, Alaska. We are devastate. Any leads or suggestions on how to recover would be appreciated. We're hoping.

Gerald McDonald

RCB Power Member posted September 22, 2004 11:21 AM

I'm in California and will keep my eyes open. Vanagon and Westy owners sorta wave a "howdy" as we cross paths. It might help if you could tell us what color your Westy is.

Best wishes,
RCB

[Moderator's Note: Van is white. oldmcdfarm -- you have also blocked your email in the members public profile section so nobody can contact you direct.]
 

judlandis

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A co-worker of my wife had his white Westy synchro stolen here in Eugene on Wednesday night. It's a white '86 or '87. I'm starting to wonder if this will be a trend, and if I should be concerned about theft. I haven't given it much thought before. Is there a black market for Westies?
 
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RCB

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Greetings, This is the second story this week about a White Westy being stolen. I dont know if its a trend since thiefs have been around since the dawn of man.
Ever since a thief broke in and stole my radio, binoculars, CD case and sunglasses, Ive smartened myself up.
A good investment is the type of lock that attaches to the brake pedal or the clutch pedal.
I bought two, one for the brake and one for the clutch....cost me $50.00 on E-Bay.
I unscrewed the driver and passenger door lock button AND removed the sliding door button.
I also installed wing window locks on both doors.
You cant stop a thief but you can slow them down.Short of placing a mute,rabid,and hungry pit bull inside our vehicles Im not sure what else we can do.
Happy and safe trails 2all........RCB
 

icarus

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Makes on wonder about all those vanagon parts for sale on e-bay! I just bought a couple myself. I jsut hope sellers have morals.

Icarus
 

solsticegt

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Howdy all
I just picked up a 1980 Westy. I have had 5 VW's since 1982 but never really looked at tweaking one till now. They have always been used for what they were intended: basic transport. Now - well now I am looking for ideas. I noted the paint conversations and had mine decided for me - the previous owner painted over the copper/brown with a deep blue (I plan to finish it as an Alaska flag scheme). Serious dents in it had me thinking the body was trashed, but as I clean it up - I am amazed to discover almost no rust - seriously rare in Alaska. Just as rare up here - not a single crack in the glass, and the side door opens and closes without a hitch. So , there are some mechanical issues to deal with, but I intend to spend the winter customizing this for a very specific purpose: I work as a sea kayak guide for 3+ days a week for about 4+ months of the year. I will be staying in it for that time. Next year will be my 4th year with this schedule and I have been sleeping in a Blazer till now (I can seriously customize minimal space).

Any thoughts for the ultimate tweaks - or sites I can visit to get ideas? This is my first post here, those that follow will not be as long. Thanks.
 

solsticegt

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OK - a single (qualified) addition, I have been - and will continue to- look over the myriad entries of this site. I humbly bow to the resources provided here. My questions fall into these basic categories: What camping customizations have people found useful, and what mechanical tweaks have been helpful. I have some stupid questions as well, but I will find answers to them locally before I post them to the world. My most basic mechanical question is this (and I know it has been addressed somewhere- I just can't find it ... yet) I may have to have an engine rebuild. I have to drive this thing over mountain passes, what is the best option?

a. Re-service the existing engine (assuming it is within reason).

b. go for a "performance" motor such as a Porche or (as I have learned from these posts) Subraru motor. Are there other options?

I bought this "box" 4 days ago and I have a lot of ideas. My last van was a '67 cargo van and that was in 1986. My brother had a '85 winnie conversion 2 or 3 years ago. We are comparing ideas. This van will get seriously used, but may not get a lot of miles. Howeber, the miles it does get willbe over mountain passes and long hauls. It will run. It will run well... oh yes.
 

Capt. Mike

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Please read the site guidelines, especially #1-4. You've wandered far from the purpose of the chat room topic.

Custom Paint Jobs has its onw topic in JUST CONVERSATIONS. There are a myriad of camping related topic throughout the site, including the entire forum CAMPING TALK. The ACCESSORIES forums discuss numerous options & additions. There's a forum WESTY GADGETS for the more exotic quests like GPS & Computer links.

The ENGINE forum has a topic specifically for "Engine Conversions" and another discussing the pros & cons of rebuild vs reman. There are also hints on driving for engine longevity, which includes mountain tips. Maintenanace schedules are posted (see the Tech Drawings link).

BTW: The VW is an excellent mountain car in stock trim, just slow. But I've had mine up every major mountain in AK with a path big enough for a car and the tallest mountain road in N. America.

There is a topic on Accessory tents and awnings for those doing long-term camping or living in the vehicle for periods of time.

Guideline #4 suggests you spend several days reading all of the site -- most of your questions have already been addressed. Print out the various forum page indexes. The site has a search engine, "Find". There are two topics in JUST CONVERSATIONS that should be mandatory reading, "The New Boards" and "Disappearing Posts". That you don't post your email in the Member Profile means you will NOT be notified of any cuts/moves/edits.
 

Capt. Mike

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We're off on a non-Westy weekend. We have a Regional antique car club meet at the NC Transportation Museum Saturday.

Sunday we gather for a 3-day tour starting Monday. Non in the Westy -- in a 1950 Ford pickemup truck. 54 years old and counting. Should be nearly 40 couples, all in antiques except the sweep truck. Glad it's cooled down. A/C in the truck is just opening the big cowl scoop! Radio is AM only. Ought to be fun. That ol' flathead V-8 will still handle the country roads we'll be on. But the best thing about car gatherings, be they Westy, antique or other, is the people.
 

Capt. Mike

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I was doing a check-in and update of "Mechanic's Listing" forums and note that the USA forum has only 36 of our 50 states with mechanic, shop or dealer recommendation (or warning) posts. I'd think that the other states do have some Westy owners with good shop experiences. How about sharing them -- it's always good no know of a friendly face when we're traveling.
 
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